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@  DaveMurphy : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) Damn, they sure started that one early.
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 09:19 PM) And fight is over so if gonna avoid spoilers , start now
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 09:18 PM) No not in france
@  DaveMurphy : (24 May 2013 - 08:46 PM) I always distrust fights there ever since the Accaries Brothers (AB Stars) had several hometown robberies.
@  DaveMurphy : (24 May 2013 - 08:45 PM) Was that one in France also?
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 08:26 PM) was a good competetive fight
@  DaveMurphy : (24 May 2013 - 08:23 PM) Yeah, I saw he stopped Botha, so I figure he must have some power, not too many people have.
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 08:22 PM) His fight with Botha was actually decent
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 08:20 PM) Its actually a pretty interesting fight, may look for a download
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 08:20 PM) Yeah unless Grants agressive and goes for the KO not sure how well he does.
@  DaveMurphy : (24 May 2013 - 08:18 PM) Jake, if the fight was in the USA, I'd probably take Grant, but I NEVER trust any fight that happens in France with a French fighter, and certainly NEVER a fight run by the WBF.  My guess is the Ref will be Takam's Uncle and he'll wave it off at some point in the mid-to-late rounds if Grant so much as stumbles.
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 07:53 PM) Only lost liek once in past 9 years.
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 07:52 PM) Yeah, Grant hasnt been that bad lately
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 07:50 PM) Hello
@  CMurray : (24 May 2013 - 06:25 PM) I just picked him because I believe that Grant is shot
@  lololol : (24 May 2013 - 05:16 PM) i don't know this takam guy, but he's fought nobody, and never outside of france, there are no odds that i can find on the fight, yet everyone is picking him. i miss something?
@  Erik : (24 May 2013 - 04:06 AM) See ya
@  lololol : (24 May 2013 - 04:05 AM) Night, Chris.
@  CMurray : (24 May 2013 - 04:05 AM) The countdown is in full force
@  lololol : (24 May 2013 - 04:04 AM) As long as they're not in boxing rings.

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#1 raraavis

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 04:03 AM

After Jack Lowe rips Kelly Pavlik and tells local news station he is not welcome in gym anymore, Kelly responds.

http://www.wfmj.com/...tor-dana-balash

17 minutes interview

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 04:17 AM

http://www.wfmj.com/...&clipId=6535383

This is the news segment that ran today this is edited better and has little of both sides

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 05:28 AM

Jack Loew = Bitter piece of shit. Never heard of him before Kelly Pavlik, will never hear of him after Kelly Pavlik. "Most miserable time of my life" my ass, who's he trying to kid????

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:30 PM

We dont know what the real story is. Loew does make a valid point when he says that Pavlik will have the same temptations in California as he did in Ohio. Loew may not be the best trainer but he's not responsible for Pavlik's issues outside the ring.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:06 PM

We dont know what the real story is. Loew does make a valid point when he says that Pavlik will have the same temptations in California as he did in Ohio. Loew may not be the best trainer but he's not responsible for Pavlik's issues outside the ring.


True, but he wants it both ways, presenting himself as more than a Trainer when he claims to have been a Father figure, while at the same time divorcing himself from decisions that he himself played a part in when they were made. He's your typical "We and You" Trainer, always has been. When it works it's "We" and when something doesn't then it's "You". Yes, there's alcohol out in California, but that's not why he didn't want Kelly out there.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:31 PM

It is one thing to

Jack Loew = Bitter piece of shit. Never heard of him before Kelly Pavlik, will never hear of him after Kelly Pavlik. "Most miserable time of my life" my ass, who's he trying to kid????


Yeah the thing that bothered me the most was when he started attacking his Dad and the whole family - there is no call for that. I didn't think Pavlik really had a choice anyhow Top Rank pretty much gave him an ultimatum.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 11:17 PM

I think both sides made some valid points but both are also clearly in the wrong. Jack Loew should have NEVER thrown his fighter under the bus nor, made comments about Kelly's family. On the other hand, Kelly sounds like he hasn't fully come to grip with his alcohol issues. A lot of evidence points to him having some sort of issues with the bottle and until he can admit to it and face it head on, he'll continue to have problems.

Just a bad story all around and some bitterness thrown in for good measure.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 01:29 AM

It is one thing to


Yeah the thing that bothered me the most was when he started attacking his Dad and the whole family - there is no call for that. I didn't think Pavlik really had a choice anyhow Top Rank pretty much gave him an ultimatum.


Yeah, Mike Pavlik is a good guy and he stuck with Loew even when a lot people wanted to see Kelly dump him. Loew can say what he wants about Kelly, and he's right that Kelly STILL doesn't get that he has a problem. but attacking the family like that was just wrong.




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